mscroggs.co.uk
mscroggs.co.uk

subscribe

Comment

Comments

Comments in green were written by me. Comments in blue were not written by me.
(Oops, forgot to put my name in the comment about puzzle 12.) My thoughts for puzzle 12 are below, covered up:

I thought about prime factors. For the full expression to be a square, all prime factors need to appear an even number of times. So to find n, I can see what prime factors in the numerator appear an odd number of times, and divide them out.

Looking at the prime numbers less than 500, any that are >=250 will appear an even number of times in the numerator. For example, 251 will appear in the 251! term, the 252! term, all the way up to the 500! term. That's 250 appearances, which is an even number.

But what about less than 250? Let's look at 241. That will appear in 241! up to 500! (260 times), but it will also appear in 482! up to 500! (19 times), because 482=241*2. So 241 appears 260+19=279 times, which is an odd number. So 241 needs to be divided out. Likewise with numbers less than 241, like 239. I didn't count the number of appearances of all numbers below 241, but I figured that if n=241, the denominator being 241! will divide out all the numbers that need to be divided out. But that didn't work.

So what am I missing? Any hint would be appreciated! Thanks!
Seth Cohen
on /blog/107
               
@Seth Cohen: Hi Seth,

Your analysis about the multiplicity on primes under 250 is key.

One other thing that helped me is I wrote out '500! x 499! x 498! x 497! x ... x 2! x 1!', stared at it, played with different ideas, and eventually saw that I could rewrite it by grouping together pairs of factorials, which I'll detail in the next paragraph.

I was thinking about how to group that expression into squares, and I eventually lucked out and saw I could do this rewrite: 500! x 499! x 498! x 497! x ... x 2! x 1! = 500 x (499!)^2 x 498 x (497!)^2 x ... x 2 x (1!)^2. This opened up the floodgates for me. I was able to find *an* answer for n. I then used the same analysis you proposed and proved it was the *smallest* answer for n. I hope this helps!
(anonymous)
on /blog/107
×1               
@(anonymous): Hi Seth, sorry, I forgot to put my name on my post. I hope it was useful!
Ryan
on /blog/107
               
@Ryan: Got it! I like your method -- just keep eliminating square numbers until you're left with what you need.

I still wanted to figure out why my original method was wrong. And it finally dawned on me:
My mistake was not realizing that my answer of 241 was just a lower bound. The value of n needed to be AT LEAST 241, because my analysis said that 241 needed to be divided out. But any number >241 would also do the job of dividing out 241. So I needed to think about higher numbers too.
Seth Cohen
on /blog/107
×1   ×2   ×1   ×1   ×1   
@Seth Cohen: Even with those hints I just can't seem to get this one!
Steve
on /blog/107
×6   ×6   ×6   ×6   ×6   

Archive

Show me a random blog post
 2026 

May 2026

World Cup stickers 2026

Apr 2026

A new puzzle every day
Mixing Wordle with other games

Feb 2026

Christmas (2025) is over
 2025 

Dec 2025

Christmas card 2025

Nov 2025

Christmas (2025) is coming!

Sep 2025

The partridge puzzle

Aug 2025

TMiP 2025 puzzle hunt

Jun 2025

A nonogram alphabet

Mar 2025

How to write a crossnumber

Jan 2025

Christmas (2024) is over
Friendly squares
 2024 

Dec 2024

A regular expression Christmas puzzle
Christmas card 2024

Nov 2024

Christmas (2024) is coming!

Feb 2024

Zines, pt. 2

Jan 2024

Christmas (2023) is over
 2023 
▼ show ▼
 2022 
▼ show ▼
 2021 
▼ show ▼
 2020 
▼ show ▼
 2019 
▼ show ▼
 2018 
▼ show ▼
 2017 
▼ show ▼
 2016 
▼ show ▼
 2015 
▼ show ▼
 2014 
▼ show ▼
 2013 
▼ show ▼
 2012 
▼ show ▼

Tags

binary bodmas ternary databet big internet math-off matrices christmas card menace newcastle kenilworth turtles tmip the aperiodical weak imposition martin gardner rust royal institution puzzles standard deviation golden spiral books thirteen mathsjam numbers polynomials dataset signorini conditions pizza cutting people maths graph theory logo wool crossnumber european cup statistics matrix multiplication christmas countdown royal baby coins captain scarlet london dinosaurs chebyshev correlation pascal's triangle inline code golden ratio electromagnetic field youtube wordle pac-man draughts ucl guest posts triangles reddit errors zines matt parker national lottery crossnumbers quadrilaterals nonograms crosswords partridge puzzle folding paper frobel python runge's phenomenon propositional calculus boundary element methods hyperbolic surfaces phd geogebra asteroids video games hats matrix of minors wave scattering alphabets reuleaux polygons platonic solids stickers harriss spiral tetris probability manchester science festival accuracy misleading statistics sobolev spaces determinants mean cambridge flexagons fence posts cross stitch fonts game of life chalkdust magazine error bars arrangement puzzles data visualisation fractals live stream london underground news exponential growth realhats talking maths in public machine learning curvature sorting go nine men's morris bluesky estimation datasaurus dozen anscombe's quartet bots dragon curves sport map projections pokémon logs arithmetic game show probability gaussian elimination trigonometry hexapawn logic light interpolation simultaneous equations warwick mathsteroids chess graphs pythagoras world cup plastic ratio hannah fry pi approximation day inverse matrices gerry anderson coventry javascript mathslogicbot pi pokémon wordle 24 hour maths dates recursion finite element method squares sound php speed weather station rugby geometry radio 4 friendly squares data programming stirling numbers tennis bempp folding tube maps preconditioning a gamut of games crochet computational complexity final fantasy noughts and crosses finite group games matrix of cofactors convergence approximation bubble bobble oeis advent calendar regular expressions football latex edinburgh craft braiding raspberry pi kings rhombicuboctahedron palindromes numerical analysis gather town manchester

Archive

Show me a random blog post
▼ show ▼
© Matthew Scroggs 2012–2026