mscroggs.co.uk
mscroggs.co.uk

subscribe

Blog

 2017-01-13 
I wrote this post with, and after much discussion with Adam Townsend. It also appeared on the Chalkdust Magazine blog.
Recently, Colin "IceCol" Beveridge blogged about something that's been irking him for a while: those annoying social media posts that tell you to work out a sum, such as \(3-3\times6+2\), and state that only $n$% of people will get it right (where \(n\) is quite small). Or as he calls it "fake maths".
A classic example of "fake maths".
This got me thinking about everyone's least favourite primary school acronym: BODMAS (sometimes known as BIDMAS, or PEMDAS if you're American). As I'm sure you've been trying to forget, BODMAS stands for "Brackets, (to the power) Of, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction" and tells you in which order the operations should be performed.
Now, I agree that we all need to do operations in the same order (just imagine trying to explain your working out to someone who uses BADSOM!) but BODMAS isn't the order mathematicians use. It's simply wrong. Take the sum \(4-3+1\) as an example. Anyone can tell you that the answer is 2. But BODMAS begs to differ: addition comes first, giving 0!
The problem here is that in reality, we treat addition and subtraction as equally important, so sums involving just these two operations are calculated from left-to-right. This caveat is quite a lot more to remember on top of BODMAS, but there's actually no need: Doing all the subtractions before additions will always give you the same answer as going from left-to-right. The same applies to division and multiplication, but luckily these two are in the correct order already in BODMAS (but no luck if you're using PEMDAS).
So instead of BODMAS, we should be using BODMSA. But that's unpronounceable, so instead we suggest that from now on you use MEDUSA. That's right, MEDUSA:
This is big news. MEDUSA vs BODMAS could be this year's pi vs tau... Although it's not actually the biggest issue when considering sums like \(3-3\times6+2\).
The real problem with \(3-3\times6+2\) is that it is written in a purposefully confusing and ambiguous order. Compare the following sums:
$$3-3\times6+2$$ $$3+2-3\times6$$ $$3+2-(3\times6)$$
In the latter two, it is much harder to make a mistake in the order of operations, because the correct order is much closer to normal left-to-right reading order, helping the reader to avoid common mistakes. Good mathematics is about good communication, not tricking people. This is why questions like this are "fake maths": real mathematicians would never ask them. If we take the time to write clearly, then I bet more than \(n\)% of people will be able get the correct answer.
×1      ×1      ×1      ×1      ×1
(Click on one of these icons to react to this blog post)

You might also enjoy...

Comments

Comments in green were written by me. Comments in blue were not written by me.
We use BEDMAS in Canada (Brackets, Exponents, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction) But we are taught that you do whichever comes first from left to right if they are the addition/ subtraction or multiplication/division. So it could also be BEMDAS, or BEMDSA, or BEDMSA. It just uses the order the that rolls off the tongue more.
Brodaha
×1   ×1   ×1   ×1   ×1     Reply
we use BOMAL - Brackets, Overs, Multiplication/Division, Addition/Subtraction, Left to Right. I agree they need to know negative numbers to fully understand and use BODMAS, BIDMAS, BEDMAS, PODMAS, PIDMAS, PEDMAS, BOMAL or MEDUSA
tiny
×1   ×1   ×1   ×1   ×1     Reply
If we could just teach young children about positive and negative numbers, then this wouldn't be a problem. Subtraction is just the addition of negative numbers. Division is also the multiplication of fractions. This is why BOMA/PEMA is the optimal method. I think MEDUSA is very creative, though.
Blan
×1   ×1   ×1   ×1   ×1     Reply
 Add a Comment 


I will only use your email address to reply to your comment (if a reply is needed).

Allowed HTML tags: <br> <a> <small> <b> <i> <s> <sup> <sub> <u> <spoiler> <ul> <ol> <li> <logo>
To prove you are not a spam bot, please type "i" then "n" then "t" then "e" then "g" then "e" then "r" in the box below (case sensitive):

Archive

Show me a random blog post
 2026 

May 2026

World Cup stickers 2026

Apr 2026

A new puzzle every day
Mixing Wordle with other games

Feb 2026

Christmas (2025) is over
 2025 

Dec 2025

Christmas card 2025

Nov 2025

Christmas (2025) is coming!

Sep 2025

The partridge puzzle

Aug 2025

TMiP 2025 puzzle hunt

Jun 2025

A nonogram alphabet

Mar 2025

How to write a crossnumber

Jan 2025

Christmas (2024) is over
Friendly squares
 2024 

Dec 2024

A regular expression Christmas puzzle
Christmas card 2024

Nov 2024

Christmas (2024) is coming!

Feb 2024

Zines, pt. 2

Jan 2024

Christmas (2023) is over
 2023 
▼ show ▼
 2022 
▼ show ▼
 2021 
▼ show ▼
 2020 
▼ show ▼
 2019 
▼ show ▼
 2018 
▼ show ▼
 2017 
▼ show ▼
 2016 
▼ show ▼
 2015 
▼ show ▼
 2014 
▼ show ▼
 2013 
▼ show ▼
 2012 
▼ show ▼

Tags

machine learning mathsteroids curvature weather station games trigonometry golden spiral logs go turtles electromagnetic field thirteen youtube royal baby estimation asteroids hexapawn wordle tetris pi people maths computational complexity standard deviation pokémon tmip finite group light plastic ratio video games stirling numbers pizza cutting matrix multiplication correlation arithmetic cambridge draughts exponential growth captain scarlet hannah fry inline code braiding logo python 24 hour maths tennis chess latex numbers fractals phd pascal's triangle datasaurus dozen zines errors simultaneous equations menace accuracy regular expressions dataset bodmas folding tube maps crossnumbers books data visualisation national lottery reddit dragon curves royal institution propositional calculus kings quadrilaterals manchester science festival map projections php bempp mathsjam graph theory interpolation fonts countdown frobel mean statistics reuleaux polygons signorini conditions folding paper noughts and crosses crossnumber raspberry pi european cup kenilworth ternary binary matrix of cofactors matt parker polynomials chalkdust magazine rust hats puzzles london underground pythagoras platonic solids speed crochet finite element method geogebra javascript weak imposition oeis matrix of minors sport convergence world cup arrangement puzzles final fantasy radio 4 the aperiodical bubble bobble recursion news programming misleading statistics stickers golden ratio cross stitch matrices friendly squares nine men's morris anscombe's quartet wool realhats sorting coventry newcastle numerical analysis christmas football crosswords dates fence posts partridge puzzle a gamut of games graphs pokémon wordle hyperbolic surfaces palindromes pi approximation day chebyshev geometry nonograms edinburgh triangles game of life craft big internet math-off logic alphabets gaussian elimination warwick databet data bots ucl mathslogicbot london coins talking maths in public game show probability determinants approximation pac-man advent calendar live stream harriss spiral runge's phenomenon rhombicuboctahedron flexagons manchester martin gardner dinosaurs rugby christmas card gerry anderson inverse matrices error bars guest posts sobolev spaces probability boundary element methods squares sound preconditioning gather town wave scattering bluesky

Archive

Show me a random blog post
▼ show ▼
© Matthew Scroggs 2012–2026