mscroggs.co.uk
mscroggs.co.uk

subscribe

Comment

Comments

Comments in green were written by me. Comments in blue were not written by me.
@Matthew: Here is how I calculated it:

You want a specific set of 20 stickers. Imagine you have already \(n\) of these. The probability that the next sticker you buy is one that you want is
$$\frac{20-n}{682}.$$
The probability that the second sticker you buy is the next new sticker is
$$\mathbb{P}(\text{next sticker is not wanted})\times\mathbb{P}(\text{sticker after next is wanted})$$
$$=\frac{662+n}{682}\times\frac{20-n}{682}.$$
Following the same method, we can see that the probability that the \(i\)th sticker you buy is the next wanted sticker is
$$\left(\frac{662+n}{682}\right)^{i-1}\times\frac{20-n}{682}.$$
Using this, we can calculate the expected number of stickers you will need to buy until you find the next wanted one:
$$\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}i \left(\frac{20-n}{682}\right) \left(\frac{662+n}{682}\right)^{i-1} = \frac{682}{20-n}$$
Therefore, to get all 682 stickers, you should expect to buy
$$\sum_{n=0}^{19}\frac{682}{20-n} = 2453 \text{ stickers}.$$
Matthew
on /blog/56
               
@Matthew: Thank you for the calculations. Good job I ordered the stickers I wanted #IRN. 2453 stickers - that's more than the number you bought (1781) to collect all stickers!
Milad
on /blog/56
               
@Matthew: Here is how I calculated it:

You want a specific set of 20 stickers. Imagine you have already \(n\) of these. The probability that the next sticker you buy is one that you want is
$$\frac{20-n}{682}.$$
The probability that the second sticker you buy is the next new sticker is
$$\mathbb{P}(\text{next sticker is not wanted})\times\mathbb{P}(\text{sticker after next is wanted})$$
$$=\frac{662+n}{682}\times\frac{20-n}{682}.$$
Following the same method, we can see that the probability that the \(i\)th sticker you buy is the next wanted sticker is
$$\left(\frac{662+n}{682}\right)^{i-1}\times\frac{20-n}{682}.$$
Using this, we can calculate the expected number of stickers you will need to buy until you find the next wanted one:
$$\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}i \left(\frac{20-n}{682}\right) \left(\frac{662+n}{682}\right)^{i-1} = \frac{682}{20-n}$$
Therefore, to get all 682 stickers, you should expect to buy
$$\sum_{n=0}^{19}\frac{682}{20-n} = 2453 \text{ stickers}.$$
Matthew
on /blog/56
               
@Matthew: Thank you for the calculations. Good job I ordered the stickers I wanted #IRN. 2453 stickers - that's more than the number you bought (1781) to collect all stickers!
Milad
on /blog/56
               
@Matthew: Here is how I calculated it:

You want a specific set of 20 stickers. Imagine you have already \(n\) of these. The probability that the next sticker you buy is one that you want is
$$\frac{20-n}{682}.$$
The probability that the second sticker you buy is the next new sticker is
$$\mathbb{P}(\text{next sticker is not wanted})\times\mathbb{P}(\text{sticker after next is wanted})$$
$$=\frac{662+n}{682}\times\frac{20-n}{682}.$$
Following the same method, we can see that the probability that the \(i\)th sticker you buy is the next wanted sticker is
$$\left(\frac{662+n}{682}\right)^{i-1}\times\frac{20-n}{682}.$$
Using this, we can calculate the expected number of stickers you will need to buy until you find the next wanted one:
$$\sum_{i=1}^{\infty}i \left(\frac{20-n}{682}\right) \left(\frac{662+n}{682}\right)^{i-1} = \frac{682}{20-n}$$
Therefore, to get all 682 stickers, you should expect to buy
$$\sum_{n=0}^{19}\frac{682}{20-n} = 2453 \text{ stickers}.$$
Matthew
on /blog/56
               

Archive

Show me a random blog post
 2024 

Feb 2024

Zines, pt. 2

Jan 2024

Christmas (2023) is over
 2023 
▼ show ▼
 2022 
▼ show ▼
 2021 
▼ show ▼
 2020 
▼ show ▼
 2019 
▼ show ▼
 2018 
▼ show ▼
 2017 
▼ show ▼
 2016 
▼ show ▼
 2015 
▼ show ▼
 2014 
▼ show ▼
 2013 
▼ show ▼
 2012 
▼ show ▼

Tags

the aperiodical map projections bempp people maths news royal baby martin gardner london underground go arithmetic nine men's morris big internet math-off mathsjam chess logic pac-man wave scattering london inline code folding tube maps determinants data visualisation stirling numbers radio 4 video games pythagoras crossnumber gerry anderson fractals harriss spiral golden spiral approximation bubble bobble correlation exponential growth sorting a gamut of games fence posts mathslogicbot christmas 24 hour maths final fantasy finite group dates fonts noughts and crosses computational complexity hexapawn palindromes zines countdown turtles statistics golden ratio sport weather station geometry databet bodmas national lottery quadrilaterals binary interpolation polynomials puzzles pi approximation day reuleaux polygons logo plastic ratio speed gather town wool talking maths in public propositional calculus cambridge curvature tennis matt parker live stream game of life mathsteroids youtube menace tmip recursion matrix of minors gaussian elimination flexagons coins rhombicuboctahedron numerical analysis weak imposition datasaurus dozen platonic solids pizza cutting royal institution mean pascal's triangle python probability craft boundary element methods geogebra manchester matrices javascript programming anscombe's quartet logs finite element method raspberry pi reddit frobel draughts realhats errors machine learning convergence signorini conditions manchester science festival error bars newcastle world cup guest posts football graphs hannah fry chalkdust magazine chebyshev edinburgh hyperbolic surfaces accuracy game show probability light braiding simultaneous equations stickers ucl estimation electromagnetic field folding paper european cup triangles squares pi matrix multiplication sobolev spaces preconditioning php matrix of cofactors dragon curves captain scarlet asteroids advent calendar standard deviation runge's phenomenon latex hats graph theory books sound dataset crochet inverse matrices trigonometry dinosaurs misleading statistics ternary numbers data oeis phd rugby christmas card games cross stitch

Archive

Show me a random blog post
▼ show ▼
© Matthew Scroggs 2012–2024